1 00:00:05,870 --> 00:00:03,169 we have got a treat today 2 00:00:08,810 --> 00:00:05,880 it's going to be a heck of a Time 3 00:00:11,870 --> 00:00:08,820 with a profound synthesis of magical and 4 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:11,880 occult teachings as well as an 5 00:00:18,590 --> 00:00:15,360 initiation into the alchemical opus 6 00:00:21,050 --> 00:00:18,600 Our Guest today has learned to integrate 7 00:00:24,070 --> 00:00:21,060 and apply hermetic and alchemical 8 00:00:26,990 --> 00:00:24,080 principles to awaken inner knowing 9 00:00:30,290 --> 00:00:27,000 Liberate the imagination and live a 10 00:00:31,310 --> 00:00:30,300 mystical creative and truly inspired 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:31,320 life 12 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:50,350 [Music] 13 00:01:06,610 --> 00:00:54,239 come Blast Off In My Time Machine sir I 14 00:01:15,770 --> 00:01:12,190 [Music] 15 00:01:18,289 --> 00:01:15,780 Blast Off on another epic episode of the 16 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:18,299 hyper anomalous esoteric research 17 00:01:24,890 --> 00:01:22,500 organization podcast AKA hero paranormal 18 00:01:28,609 --> 00:01:24,900 broadcasting from the base at lamadre 19 00:01:29,630 --> 00:01:28,619 Mountain just south of area 51. my name 20 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:29,640 is Ryan 21 00:01:36,649 --> 00:01:32,640 the Hermetic Hammer of the airwaves 22 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:36,659 bringing you an unbelievable deep and 23 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:39,180 inspiring episode tonight 24 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:41,520 on the episode we have someone I've 25 00:01:46,190 --> 00:01:43,380 wanted to talk to for quite some time 26 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:46,200 Marlena 7 Bremner 27 00:01:51,109 --> 00:01:49,439 she has written a stunner of a book I 28 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:51,119 mean this is one that belongs on 29 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:52,799 everybody's bookshelf 30 00:01:59,870 --> 00:01:57,119 it is thick it is vast it is very well 31 00:02:01,730 --> 00:01:59,880 written and goes into great account of 32 00:02:04,429 --> 00:02:01,740 many of the most important things on our 33 00:02:07,609 --> 00:02:04,439 planet the title of the book is hermetic 34 00:02:10,729 --> 00:02:07,619 philosophy and creative Alchemy the 35 00:02:13,369 --> 00:02:10,739 Emerald Tablet the Corpus or medicum and 36 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:13,379 the journey through the seven spheres 37 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:15,599 Marlena takes 38 00:02:21,470 --> 00:02:19,200 the reader on a hermetic journey through 39 00:02:24,589 --> 00:02:21,480 each of the seven traditional planets 40 00:02:26,710 --> 00:02:24,599 Saturn Jupiter Mars the sun Venus 41 00:02:28,809 --> 00:02:26,720 Mercury and the Moon 42 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:28,819 exploring their mythological 43 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:31,800 philosophical alchemical kabbalistic 44 00:02:37,550 --> 00:02:35,040 magical astrological and energetic 45 00:02:40,430 --> 00:02:37,560 natures and offering meditative 46 00:02:43,369 --> 00:02:40,440 discourses that reach past the rational 47 00:02:44,509 --> 00:02:43,379 mind to speak directly to the intuitive 48 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:44,519 soul 49 00:02:50,830 --> 00:02:47,519 she relates the seven planets to the 50 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:50,840 esoteric anatomy of the human body 51 00:02:57,050 --> 00:02:54,720 specifically the seven chakras and shows 52 00:03:00,110 --> 00:02:57,060 how the planets can offer understanding 53 00:03:02,570 --> 00:03:00,120 and experience of archetypal energies 54 00:03:05,330 --> 00:03:02,580 and patterns in the body 55 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:05,340 in one's life and in the creative 56 00:03:09,470 --> 00:03:06,720 process 57 00:03:11,390 --> 00:03:09,480 drawing on ancient Egyptian and Greek 58 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:11,400 cosmogenes 59 00:03:18,649 --> 00:03:15,120 an essential hermetic texts such as the 60 00:03:20,990 --> 00:03:18,659 Corpus hermeticum the Emerald Tablet and 61 00:03:24,589 --> 00:03:21,000 the nag hamadi 62 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:24,599 Marlene seven Bremner offers a detailed 63 00:03:31,270 --> 00:03:27,780 understanding of hermetic philosophy 64 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:31,280 the art of alchemy is a foundation for 65 00:03:36,949 --> 00:03:34,560 psychospiritual Creative practice 66 00:03:40,009 --> 00:03:36,959 offering examples from traditional 67 00:03:43,970 --> 00:03:40,019 alchemical art and her own 68 00:03:47,809 --> 00:03:43,980 intricate esoteric paintings 69 00:03:50,509 --> 00:03:47,819 seven examines the foundation principles 70 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:50,519 of hermeticism and Alchemy and shows how 71 00:03:55,369 --> 00:03:52,560 these Traditions are a direct means for 72 00:03:58,309 --> 00:03:55,379 accessing higher Consciousness and true 73 00:04:01,070 --> 00:03:58,319 self-knowledge or gnosis as well as a 74 00:04:02,930 --> 00:04:01,080 way to extract the essence of One's Own 75 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:02,940 creative gifts 76 00:04:08,210 --> 00:04:06,000 before we get started if you have not 77 00:04:11,149 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it on podbean at 92 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:52,259 heroparanormal.com like I said just a 93 00:04:56,810 --> 00:04:54,479 ton of content behind the paywall 94 00:05:00,710 --> 00:04:56,820 so yeah check it out 95 00:05:03,890 --> 00:05:00,720 back to our guest Marlena 7 Bremner 96 00:05:06,850 --> 00:05:03,900 is a self-taught oil painter writer and 97 00:05:09,770 --> 00:05:06,860 teacher who has spent more than 20 years 98 00:05:11,330 --> 00:05:09,780 exploring esoteric and spiritual 99 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:11,340 traditions 100 00:05:14,810 --> 00:05:13,199 including 101 00:05:19,189 --> 00:05:14,820 hermeticism 102 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:19,199 Alchemy surrealism symbolism 103 00:05:27,650 --> 00:05:24,479 tarot psychology magic astrology 104 00:05:30,050 --> 00:05:27,660 Shamanism and mythology 105 00:05:32,510 --> 00:05:30,060 she developed her career as an artist in 106 00:05:34,610 --> 00:05:32,520 the Pacific Northwest and now spends her 107 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:34,620 time painting and writing in the New 108 00:05:38,930 --> 00:05:36,479 Mexico desert 109 00:05:41,930 --> 00:05:38,940 through this book in my opinion 110 00:05:45,170 --> 00:05:41,940 there's a lot to be learned 111 00:05:48,350 --> 00:05:45,180 she has a profound synthesis of magical 112 00:05:51,230 --> 00:05:48,360 and occult teachings as well as an 113 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:51,240 initiation into the alchemical opus 114 00:05:55,850 --> 00:05:53,759 this book reveals how to integrate and 115 00:05:59,330 --> 00:05:55,860 apply hermetic and alchemical principles 116 00:06:02,749 --> 00:05:59,340 to awaken inner knowing Liberate the 117 00:06:05,870 --> 00:06:02,759 imagination and live a mystical creative 118 00:06:09,290 --> 00:06:05,880 and truly inspired life 119 00:06:12,969 --> 00:06:09,300 Marlena 7 Bremner welcome to the hero 120 00:06:19,909 --> 00:06:17,090 it is a pleasure and I've really been 121 00:06:22,909 --> 00:06:19,919 excited to talk to you I've been blown 122 00:06:25,610 --> 00:06:22,919 away by this amazing work that you have 123 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:25,620 published you've put so much time and 124 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:27,960 effort into something that's important 125 00:06:35,570 --> 00:06:30,479 to me and I think that the way you've 126 00:06:36,969 --> 00:06:35,580 done it is just neatly uh within your 127 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:36,979 creative 128 00:06:44,270 --> 00:06:41,280 uh scope and what I mean by that is even 129 00:06:46,730 --> 00:06:44,280 though this is an audio only podcast 130 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:46,740 I was stunned I mean the book is is 131 00:06:52,610 --> 00:06:50,100 Hefty and I was stunned at the detail 132 00:06:56,510 --> 00:06:52,620 and this book would be worth purchasing 133 00:06:58,490 --> 00:06:56,520 just for the art inside it and that's 134 00:07:03,230 --> 00:06:58,500 kind of that was kind of a bonus that I 135 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:03,240 didn't expect and I guess my question is 136 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:04,080 um 137 00:07:10,969 --> 00:07:07,680 what got you down this path to create 138 00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:10,979 such a magical book such an amazing work 139 00:07:15,950 --> 00:07:13,680 obviously you put tons and tons of time 140 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:15,960 and effort into this what got you on 141 00:07:25,850 --> 00:07:24,469 um well it's kind of a long path but I 142 00:07:28,850 --> 00:07:25,860 think 143 00:07:31,490 --> 00:07:28,860 I was interested in spiritual 144 00:07:34,610 --> 00:07:31,500 um ideas from a young age and in the 145 00:07:36,830 --> 00:07:34,620 esoteric and you called from a young age 146 00:07:40,189 --> 00:07:36,840 um and this sort of led me into studying 147 00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:40,199 natural medicine and energy healing so 148 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:41,759 it was when I was studying Energy 149 00:07:47,450 --> 00:07:44,639 Medicine and specifically a form of body 150 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:47,460 work called Clarity therapy that I was 151 00:07:54,050 --> 00:07:51,599 introduced to hermetic principles the 152 00:07:57,129 --> 00:07:54,060 ideas of Correspondence and helping 153 00:08:01,490 --> 00:07:57,139 within the microcosm of the human body 154 00:08:04,129 --> 00:08:01,500 relate to the cosmos the macro collagen 155 00:08:06,350 --> 00:08:04,139 and those relationships and how the 156 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:06,360 elements work and function through the 157 00:08:11,809 --> 00:08:08,400 body and 158 00:08:15,309 --> 00:08:11,819 I also I wanted to portray some of these 159 00:08:19,490 --> 00:08:15,319 ideas visually and so as I was exploring 160 00:08:21,230 --> 00:08:19,500 esoteric anatomy and energy and these 161 00:08:23,869 --> 00:08:21,240 relationships between the above and the 162 00:08:27,290 --> 00:08:23,879 below I was also exploring that through 163 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:27,300 my creative process and 164 00:08:31,969 --> 00:08:30,240 this also spurred an interest in alchemy 165 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:31,979 so at the time I was like diving deep 166 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:35,279 into my alchemical studies starting off 167 00:08:41,269 --> 00:08:38,880 with the psychological approach of Carl 168 00:08:44,269 --> 00:08:41,279 Jung and then kind of diving deeper into 169 00:08:46,449 --> 00:08:44,279 reading some of the old texts myself and 170 00:08:49,610 --> 00:08:46,459 trying to understand them 171 00:08:50,990 --> 00:08:49,620 and all through this I was painting and 172 00:08:53,329 --> 00:08:51,000 applying different things that I was 173 00:08:57,650 --> 00:08:53,339 learning into my creative process 174 00:08:59,690 --> 00:08:57,660 and learning a lot and kind of observing 175 00:09:01,670 --> 00:08:59,700 different hermetic principles at play 176 00:09:05,210 --> 00:09:01,680 observing different alchemical processes 177 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:05,220 unfolding and just studying all of that 178 00:09:11,329 --> 00:09:08,100 and taking copious notes and all of that 179 00:09:13,070 --> 00:09:11,339 just sort of eventually accrued into 180 00:09:15,170 --> 00:09:13,080 this book 181 00:09:17,389 --> 00:09:15,180 um but yeah it was a very long process 182 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:17,399 that unfolded over many years 183 00:09:23,570 --> 00:09:21,600 wow and it is it is something to behold 184 00:09:25,370 --> 00:09:23,580 it's something that I'll just get it 185 00:09:28,090 --> 00:09:25,380 right out of the way I think this 186 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:28,100 belongs on everyone's bookshelf 187 00:09:35,389 --> 00:09:33,120 and I I love the fact that you go into 188 00:09:37,070 --> 00:09:35,399 so much detail 189 00:09:41,930 --> 00:09:37,080 um and have so many of my favorite 190 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:41,940 characters especially Hermes and it's uh 191 00:09:46,910 --> 00:09:44,399 I have a fascination with the trickster 192 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:46,920 and the 193 00:09:55,490 --> 00:09:51,300 the Hermetic path of self-initiation and 194 00:09:58,310 --> 00:09:55,500 you really go down this in quite serious 195 00:10:01,850 --> 00:09:58,320 detail to the fact that it's obvious 196 00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:01,860 that you are knowledgeable internally of 197 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:03,180 this this is something that's had a 198 00:10:11,570 --> 00:10:09,949 oh yeah definitely and 199 00:10:13,730 --> 00:10:11,580 I don't think I would write something 200 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:13,740 like this if I didn't have a personal 201 00:10:18,290 --> 00:10:15,600 experience with it you know and that's 202 00:10:19,970 --> 00:10:18,300 really important to me and also plays a 203 00:10:22,430 --> 00:10:19,980 factor in the Arts that I create it's 204 00:10:24,230 --> 00:10:22,440 all through my personal experience and a 205 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:24,240 lot of that through the body 206 00:10:27,769 --> 00:10:25,920 um but also through the spirit and soul 207 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:27,779 and how these things are affecting me 208 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:29,760 and transforming me 209 00:10:35,750 --> 00:10:33,120 um definitely plays into it so 210 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:35,760 and since 211 00:10:41,630 --> 00:10:38,399 since Hermes is so well documented in 212 00:10:44,630 --> 00:10:41,640 this book in various accounts 213 00:10:47,389 --> 00:10:44,640 there's there's so much myth surrounding 214 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:47,399 Hermes you know is he a God is he a 215 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:51,120 priest a messenger what are your 216 00:10:58,130 --> 00:10:54,720 Impressions and experiences researching 217 00:11:02,389 --> 00:11:00,710 well yeah 218 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:02,399 there have been people who believed 219 00:11:06,009 --> 00:11:04,560 Hermes with the living being a living 220 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:06,019 man 221 00:11:14,930 --> 00:11:12,360 God or a deity and my personal 222 00:11:17,269 --> 00:11:14,940 thought on the matter is that Hermes 223 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:17,279 represent 224 00:11:22,490 --> 00:11:19,920 the Mind itself the Divine mind and our 225 00:11:24,769 --> 00:11:22,500 access to these higher States Of 226 00:11:28,130 --> 00:11:24,779 Consciousness and also our ability to 227 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:28,140 access the unconscious so Hermes that is 228 00:11:32,690 --> 00:11:30,480 a part of us and facilitates 229 00:11:34,009 --> 00:11:32,700 communication between different levels 230 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:34,019 of our being 231 00:11:37,730 --> 00:11:36,240 and we all have access to her amazing so 232 00:11:39,949 --> 00:11:37,740 I believe there have been many people 233 00:11:43,329 --> 00:11:39,959 throughout the centuries who have 234 00:11:46,250 --> 00:11:43,339 channeled this energy this Divine energy 235 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:46,260 and even written under the pseudonym of 236 00:11:50,030 --> 00:11:48,600 Hermes you know the Hermetic texts are 237 00:11:52,430 --> 00:11:50,040 like that as well they're they're 238 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:52,440 subscribe to Hermes but obviously they 239 00:11:55,790 --> 00:11:53,940 were written by you know probably 240 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:55,800 philosophers and different people in the 241 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:57,600 Hellenistic era 242 00:11:59,870 --> 00:11:58,560 um 243 00:12:03,829 --> 00:11:59,880 but 244 00:12:05,810 --> 00:12:03,839 they were tapping into this field of 245 00:12:08,030 --> 00:12:05,820 energy that we think of as Hermes or 246 00:12:11,930 --> 00:12:08,040 Hermes strike's greatest 247 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:11,940 um this Divine stage god of wisdom that 248 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:14,700 helped us to connect with the Divine 249 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:19,440 Source within us and yeah facilitate 250 00:12:25,009 --> 00:12:22,560 information between our conscious not 251 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:25,019 unconscious mind and also between our 252 00:12:31,250 --> 00:12:28,320 Earthly mortal selves and our Immortal 253 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:31,260 Celestial Eternal natures 254 00:12:37,630 --> 00:12:35,760 oh such truth and I believe that like so 255 00:12:40,790 --> 00:12:37,640 many things when it comes to 256 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:40,800 self-initiation and gnosis people are 257 00:12:47,150 --> 00:12:43,260 very unwilling to kind of trust their 258 00:12:49,970 --> 00:12:47,160 own gut intuition or or their own soul 259 00:12:55,069 --> 00:12:49,980 to to guide them to these 260 00:12:57,590 --> 00:12:55,079 uh more I guess Fringe paths and 261 00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:57,600 in your experience what advice do you 262 00:13:02,449 --> 00:12:59,760 have to someone who is you know just 263 00:13:05,509 --> 00:13:02,459 kind of kind of sniffing around the tree 264 00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:05,519 of knowledge when it comes to Hermes and 265 00:13:10,129 --> 00:13:08,399 and following their own path any advice 266 00:13:12,670 --> 00:13:10,139 I know the book goes into a lot of 267 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:12,680 detail but in a nutshell 268 00:13:18,949 --> 00:13:16,139 what would you advise people 269 00:13:20,690 --> 00:13:18,959 yeah I mean I think the intuition is a 270 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:20,700 really important factor in that and 271 00:13:26,569 --> 00:13:23,760 allowing yourself to be guided but this 272 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:26,579 kind of requires a 273 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:29,880 um a cultivation of receptiveness and 274 00:13:34,430 --> 00:13:32,160 spaciousness within to be able to hear 275 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:34,440 messages that are coming through 276 00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:37,680 so you know I think self-initiation is 277 00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:39,839 really about allowing that inner risk 278 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:41,600 and that inner 279 00:13:46,910 --> 00:13:44,000 intelligence to guide us 280 00:13:48,590 --> 00:13:46,920 and we have to get out of the way we 281 00:13:50,269 --> 00:13:48,600 have to put our egos aside a little bit 282 00:13:52,490 --> 00:13:50,279 and allow that to happen 283 00:13:54,650 --> 00:13:52,500 and there are different ways that we can 284 00:13:56,629 --> 00:13:54,660 cultivate that receptiveness you know 285 00:13:58,730 --> 00:13:56,639 paying attention to dreams our 286 00:14:00,710 --> 00:13:58,740 unconscious is always communicating to 287 00:14:02,930 --> 00:14:00,720 us through dreams and has so many 288 00:14:08,030 --> 00:14:02,940 symbols and messages and things to teach 289 00:14:10,430 --> 00:14:08,040 us so that's a very fundamental way to 290 00:14:11,930 --> 00:14:10,440 to go on the path of self-initiation is 291 00:14:14,210 --> 00:14:11,940 to pay attention to these things that 292 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:14,220 are happening below the surface of our 293 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:17,040 awareness and it's through our dreams 294 00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:18,720 that those things come to the surface 295 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:22,079 and it's all expressed in metaphor and 296 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:23,760 symbol and 297 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:24,480 um 298 00:14:29,389 --> 00:14:26,880 very coated so we have to kind of you 299 00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:29,399 know follow these little breadcrumbs 300 00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:31,440 into the forest of our unconscious and 301 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:33,360 figure out what they mean and so that's 302 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:35,760 part of this but also you know there's 303 00:14:40,850 --> 00:14:38,000 messages coming to us all the time 304 00:14:42,230 --> 00:14:40,860 through nature through other people in 305 00:14:44,930 --> 00:14:42,240 our lives through events that are 306 00:14:47,870 --> 00:14:44,940 unfolding and if we pay attention to 307 00:14:48,530 --> 00:14:47,880 things like synchronicity and 308 00:14:50,750 --> 00:14:48,540 um 309 00:14:53,389 --> 00:14:50,760 feelings that we get pay attention to 310 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:53,399 our gut reactions to things all of these 311 00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:56,160 things kind of help us hear in the 312 00:15:02,090 --> 00:14:59,279 direction of gnosis and of true 313 00:15:05,150 --> 00:15:02,100 self-knowledge so those are some basic 314 00:15:06,590 --> 00:15:05,160 things just in terms of like 315 00:15:09,949 --> 00:15:06,600 um following the intuition and 316 00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:09,959 cultivating that kind of receptivity 317 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:10,620 um 318 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:12,240 but yeah then there's other things we 319 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:14,399 can do 320 00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:17,279 paying attention to the movements of the 321 00:15:22,670 --> 00:15:20,160 planets and astrology and you know 322 00:15:24,530 --> 00:15:22,680 taking note of the planetary rulers of 323 00:15:27,710 --> 00:15:24,540 the day and kind of having a devotional 324 00:15:29,810 --> 00:15:27,720 practice aligned to the planet that 325 00:15:31,790 --> 00:15:29,820 helps us get in touch with these seven 326 00:15:34,189 --> 00:15:31,800 archetypal energies that are working 327 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:34,199 through us which also Express in 328 00:15:38,329 --> 00:15:36,000 unconscious ways and so the more 329 00:15:42,170 --> 00:15:38,339 familiar we can become with them through 330 00:15:44,930 --> 00:15:42,180 a sort of devotional magical practice 331 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,940 the more we come to know ourselves and 332 00:15:49,069 --> 00:15:46,800 that again is part of this gnosis is 333 00:15:51,370 --> 00:15:49,079 coming to know these different aspects 334 00:15:54,410 --> 00:15:51,380 of 335 00:15:57,470 --> 00:15:54,420 very sufficient and inspirational answer 336 00:15:59,930 --> 00:15:57,480 thank you and you know on a personal 337 00:16:02,870 --> 00:15:59,940 level uh this 338 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:02,880 this is you know for simplicity's sake I 339 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:06,480 find that it seems that when one delves 340 00:16:13,310 --> 00:16:10,500 into the occult arts and uh trying to 341 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:13,320 try trying to gather one's innermost 342 00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:16,560 potential that you know the outside 343 00:16:21,410 --> 00:16:18,959 world or reality if you want to call it 344 00:16:23,329 --> 00:16:21,420 that still has those moments and I've 345 00:16:25,069 --> 00:16:23,339 I've dealt with that myself where I'm 346 00:16:27,730 --> 00:16:25,079 where I'm knocked off of my own little 347 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:27,740 pedestal that I've created for myself 348 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:32,399 and it's it's hard for me to uh 349 00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:35,600 gauge the relationship between the real 350 00:16:41,629 --> 00:16:40,079 and the more surreal and yet I would say 351 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:41,639 I would say that the more valuable 352 00:16:46,490 --> 00:16:44,160 things in my life are definitely 353 00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:46,500 sparked from you know like these 354 00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:48,120 messages you're describing the 355 00:16:53,389 --> 00:16:50,880 inspiration that comes from Beyond the 356 00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:53,399 Veil and the planetary aspects of that 357 00:16:58,610 --> 00:16:57,600 are huge and I I think you know in 358 00:17:01,730 --> 00:16:58,620 today's 359 00:17:04,970 --> 00:17:01,740 culture and Society were taught that the 360 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:04,980 planets are just these random rocks 361 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:08,160 floating around uh that you know just 362 00:17:13,370 --> 00:17:09,839 get in the way of NASA and their 363 00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:13,380 missions but on a personal level and 364 00:17:18,110 --> 00:17:15,419 more historically they are much more 365 00:17:23,689 --> 00:17:18,120 than that aren't they 366 00:17:25,250 --> 00:17:23,699 oh yeah yeah so in a hermetic cosmogyny 367 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,260 um we're talking about the southern 368 00:17:29,570 --> 00:17:27,360 traditional planets so the seven planets 369 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:29,580 that were visible to the naked eye and 370 00:17:32,990 --> 00:17:31,320 technically they're not all planets so 371 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:33,000 the sun and the moon are considered 372 00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:35,760 planets in this system even though 373 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:37,919 um the sun is a star and the Moon is 374 00:17:42,289 --> 00:17:39,840 orbiting the Earth and 375 00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:42,299 um so we've got the Sun and the Moon and 376 00:17:48,890 --> 00:17:45,000 then Mercury Venus Mars Jupiter and 377 00:17:51,710 --> 00:17:48,900 Saturn and these are actually 378 00:17:54,830 --> 00:17:51,720 affecting us from the cosmos but they're 379 00:17:56,830 --> 00:17:54,840 also within them and this kind of goes 380 00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:56,840 with the Hermetic principle of 381 00:18:00,590 --> 00:17:58,559 Correspondence which says that 382 00:18:02,570 --> 00:18:00,600 everything that the Bob is like that 383 00:18:04,909 --> 00:18:02,580 which is below and that which is below 384 00:18:07,130 --> 00:18:04,919 is like that which is above 385 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:07,140 um more commonly heard of Oz about So 386 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:08,220 Below 387 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:10,740 so these things are within us they're 388 00:18:14,930 --> 00:18:12,840 not just existing in the cosmos out in 389 00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:14,940 space they're actually inside of us and 390 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:17,460 they represent energies and so as these 391 00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:19,020 planets are moving around the solar 392 00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:21,120 system and orbiting the Sun and 393 00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:23,520 aspecting with each other and with the 394 00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:25,740 Earth and with our natal charts and all 395 00:18:29,409 --> 00:18:27,600 of this it's affecting us in different 396 00:18:32,570 --> 00:18:29,419 ways and kind of triggering different 397 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:32,580 reactions within us and 398 00:18:38,990 --> 00:18:35,700 if we're kind of operating in an 399 00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:39,000 unconscious automatic way in life we're 400 00:18:43,070 --> 00:18:41,340 not really like engaging then these 401 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:43,080 things are just kind of having their way 402 00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:44,640 with us and that's what we understand as 403 00:18:50,570 --> 00:18:47,580 faith and so the Hermetic ideas that we 404 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:50,580 overcome these seven spheres these seven 405 00:18:56,029 --> 00:18:53,760 planetary spheres the state and we rise 406 00:18:58,669 --> 00:18:56,039 into a higher state of consciousness and 407 00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:58,679 where in which we have our own creative 408 00:19:04,730 --> 00:19:01,440 agency and we come back into our power 409 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:04,740 over destiny and this doesn't mean that 410 00:19:08,450 --> 00:19:06,960 we have complete control over things or 411 00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:08,460 that you know we're the rulers of the 412 00:19:12,169 --> 00:19:09,900 universe or something like that it just 413 00:19:14,930 --> 00:19:12,179 means that we've stepped into a more 414 00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:14,940 active creative role with our destiny 415 00:19:20,330 --> 00:19:17,340 and so we have more of the power to 416 00:19:21,770 --> 00:19:20,340 impact how things unfold how we react to 417 00:19:23,810 --> 00:19:21,780 things 418 00:19:25,789 --> 00:19:23,820 um and that all happens 419 00:19:27,529 --> 00:19:25,799 through 420 00:19:29,650 --> 00:19:27,539 um ascending to these different levels 421 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:29,660 of consciousness but also through 422 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:32,400 fine-tuning the imagination and 423 00:19:37,549 --> 00:19:33,840 understanding how the imagination 424 00:19:39,230 --> 00:19:37,559 affects the outer world 425 00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:39,240 um but I wanted to go back to what you 426 00:19:43,310 --> 00:19:40,799 were saying about 427 00:19:45,310 --> 00:19:43,320 um having a hard time 428 00:19:47,630 --> 00:19:45,320 kind of 429 00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:47,640 reconciling the outer world in the inner 430 00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:48,660 world I think that's what you were 431 00:19:52,610 --> 00:19:50,760 saying yeah kind of co-facilitating the 432 00:19:54,169 --> 00:19:52,620 two yeah 433 00:19:55,370 --> 00:19:54,179 yeah 434 00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:55,380 um 435 00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:58,320 I think that's kind of a product of of 436 00:20:03,890 --> 00:20:00,000 our culture and in this time and 437 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:03,900 everything being so dualistic and um 438 00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:06,960 the Hermetic path really teaches us how 439 00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:11,160 to dissolve those boundaries and so one 440 00:20:16,270 --> 00:20:13,020 of the things that can happen is we 441 00:20:19,730 --> 00:20:16,280 start to observe what we consider 442 00:20:21,289 --> 00:20:19,740 consensus reality or the waking world or 443 00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:21,299 just reality 444 00:20:25,549 --> 00:20:23,520 um we start to observe that as though it 445 00:20:28,010 --> 00:20:25,559 were a dream itself 446 00:20:31,850 --> 00:20:28,020 and that green is unfolding within the 447 00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:31,860 mind of the Creator the one force energy 448 00:20:36,169 --> 00:20:34,080 in which everything is Unified and so 449 00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:36,179 we're all part of this unfolding dream 450 00:20:41,630 --> 00:20:38,460 and everything that occurs in our life 451 00:20:44,570 --> 00:20:41,640 around us and in the world is also part 452 00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:44,580 of that dream and if we think of what 453 00:20:48,650 --> 00:20:48,000 happens when we become Lucid in a dream 454 00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:48,660 um 455 00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:50,460 that's kind of what happens the more 456 00:20:54,409 --> 00:20:53,039 conscious we become in life we we have 457 00:20:56,330 --> 00:20:54,419 more 458 00:21:00,590 --> 00:20:56,340 um control over things that are 459 00:21:02,990 --> 00:21:00,600 happening and for creative power 460 00:21:06,289 --> 00:21:03,000 to affect things 461 00:21:08,990 --> 00:21:06,299 I like that kind of taking control and 462 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:09,000 disciplining the mind to work through it 463 00:21:14,570 --> 00:21:10,080 and 464 00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,580 think that 465 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:16,799 practically anyone who is an artist 466 00:21:22,909 --> 00:21:19,919 which you are an oil painter 467 00:21:26,510 --> 00:21:22,919 knows that fundamental truth that there 468 00:21:28,610 --> 00:21:26,520 is sort of this uh Divine spark but I 469 00:21:30,850 --> 00:21:28,620 don't want to take it out of out of out 470 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:30,860 of context but this 471 00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:35,520 inspiration that can come from 472 00:21:43,610 --> 00:21:38,700 not not only within but it can come from 473 00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:43,620 outside of oneself and I don't want to 474 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:45,440 call it channeling but I think that 475 00:21:54,289 --> 00:21:48,720 artists are automatically or somehow 476 00:21:57,230 --> 00:21:54,299 more in tune with the nature or or the 477 00:21:59,210 --> 00:21:57,240 the law of nature do you find that or do 478 00:22:04,250 --> 00:21:59,220 you are there times that you find that 479 00:22:10,370 --> 00:22:07,610 yeah definitely yeah and I I think of 480 00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:10,380 that as the the Flow State 481 00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:14,100 um when you're completely focused 482 00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:17,220 but you're not having to consciously 483 00:22:21,409 --> 00:22:18,900 deliberate over everything that you're 484 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:21,419 doing because there's this sort of 485 00:22:27,409 --> 00:22:23,820 um energy that takes over like it feels 486 00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:27,419 as so your hand is being guided 487 00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:29,039 um at least when I'm painting this is 488 00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:31,740 what I what I feel feels as though my 489 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:33,900 hand is being guided I can kind of step 490 00:22:37,789 --> 00:22:36,240 aside and just let things unfold and 491 00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:37,799 then some really surprising things can 492 00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:39,840 happen that feel like they're not coming 493 00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:41,880 from me they're just coming through me 494 00:22:46,970 --> 00:22:43,740 and that's a really really magical 495 00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:46,980 experience and you know athletes 496 00:22:51,649 --> 00:22:50,460 experience that data flow and 497 00:22:53,930 --> 00:22:51,659 um 498 00:22:56,510 --> 00:22:53,940 I think anyone working in any sort of 499 00:22:59,149 --> 00:22:56,520 creative Endeavor experience is that at 500 00:23:00,529 --> 00:22:59,159 different times that doesn't mean it's 501 00:23:02,930 --> 00:23:00,539 always like that when I'm painting 502 00:23:04,370 --> 00:23:02,940 sometimes it's just the work of it you 503 00:23:05,870 --> 00:23:04,380 know and it's just the discipline of 504 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:05,880 like okay I just have to do this part 505 00:23:10,130 --> 00:23:07,260 and 506 00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:10,140 there's like 507 00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:11,640 maybe not a lot of conscious 508 00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:13,919 deliberation because the 509 00:23:19,370 --> 00:23:17,340 memory is in my body of how to do 510 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:19,380 certain things but um 511 00:23:24,409 --> 00:23:21,780 that divine inspiration isn't 512 00:23:25,970 --> 00:23:24,419 necessarily coming through all the time 513 00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:25,980 but 514 00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:28,620 um the more that we can align our energy 515 00:23:32,930 --> 00:23:31,140 and get out of the way and kind of unify 516 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,940 these different 517 00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:35,039 um dates of Attraction and repulsion 518 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:37,080 that we're constantly being you know 519 00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:39,120 coming back and forth between the more 520 00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:42,900 we can fill all of that energy and align 521 00:23:49,149 --> 00:23:45,720 ourselves between the above and the 522 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,159 below and kind of harmonizing these 523 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:51,600 archetypal energies the seven spheres 524 00:23:57,470 --> 00:23:54,960 the more access we have to that created 525 00:23:59,690 --> 00:23:57,480 sphere which in the Hermetic system is 526 00:24:02,750 --> 00:23:59,700 called the abdullard or the Apes sphere 527 00:24:05,330 --> 00:24:02,760 so it's this idea that all the seven are 528 00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,340 unified in this eight sphere and this is 529 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:07,919 where we step into our true creative 530 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,820 power 531 00:24:12,169 --> 00:24:10,559 and that's why it's called the formative 532 00:24:15,529 --> 00:24:12,179 or the creative sphere 533 00:24:18,289 --> 00:24:15,539 and it's in the system of these nested 534 00:24:21,409 --> 00:24:18,299 spheres moving outward from the earth 535 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:21,419 the eight sphere is outside of the seven 536 00:24:27,070 --> 00:24:24,780 planetary spheres and it's the sphere of 537 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:27,080 the sixth stars or the sphere of Souls 538 00:24:33,169 --> 00:24:30,480 and beyond that then we have the sphere 539 00:24:34,669 --> 00:24:33,179 of the Divine mind and the ninth and 540 00:24:36,529 --> 00:24:34,679 then the sphere of 541 00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:36,539 um the source of all things the tense 542 00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:37,559 and 543 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,039 we have this is sort of uh how 544 00:24:45,049 --> 00:24:43,200 Consciousness Rises up about these kind 545 00:24:47,810 --> 00:24:45,059 of energies that would Hold Us Down 546 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:47,820 closer to the Earth and reaches towards 547 00:24:52,610 --> 00:24:51,000 its divine nature and so the more we get 548 00:24:55,549 --> 00:24:52,620 out of the way the more access we have 549 00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:55,559 to that divine inspiration that moves 550 00:24:59,230 --> 00:24:57,000 through less and kind of guides our 551 00:25:03,770 --> 00:24:59,240 creative work 552 00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:03,780 that is such a great explanation and you 553 00:25:10,730 --> 00:25:07,679 know kind of going into this 554 00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:10,740 um you know the reality of inspiration 555 00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:12,360 and 556 00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:17,880 ancient Egyptian roots of hermetic 557 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:19,860 tradition which you write about in your 558 00:25:23,149 --> 00:25:20,820 book 559 00:25:25,970 --> 00:25:23,159 you you 560 00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:25,980 took a trip to Egypt if I'm not mistaken 561 00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:28,799 I wanted to ask you obviously though 562 00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:31,279 their thought was 563 00:25:36,830 --> 00:25:33,960 portrayed as I believe the one who 564 00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:36,840 invented writing and 565 00:25:42,010 --> 00:25:39,480 what what was your trip like did was it 566 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:42,020 what you expect or much more different 567 00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:45,720 inspirational in any sense 568 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:47,400 there's definitely much more than I 569 00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:50,580 expected and very very inspirational and 570 00:25:56,510 --> 00:25:54,360 mind-opening and um so definitely played 571 00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,520 a big part of that um 572 00:26:01,610 --> 00:25:59,039 I feel like this both is always with me 573 00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:01,620 so both of the ibis-headed god of 574 00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:03,600 Ancient Egypt and yes he was the god of 575 00:26:08,049 --> 00:26:06,600 writing the god of magic and Alchemy and 576 00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:08,059 astrology 577 00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:10,980 engineering mathematics like all of 578 00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:13,919 these Divine Arts and Sciences were 579 00:26:18,190 --> 00:26:17,039 ascribed to this ancient Egyptian deity 580 00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:18,200 named those 581 00:26:26,570 --> 00:26:23,159 and both is a predecessor of Hermes 582 00:26:29,090 --> 00:26:26,580 the syncretic form of Hermes hermesis 583 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:29,100 Magistas who combined the Greek hermeas 584 00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,720 with the Egyptian cells 585 00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:31,919 so 586 00:26:35,390 --> 00:26:33,900 yeah when I went to Egypt 587 00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:35,400 um 588 00:26:39,289 --> 00:26:36,900 one of the most 589 00:26:42,169 --> 00:26:39,299 uh one of the first things that hit me 590 00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:42,179 was just a sense of familiarity and a 591 00:26:46,370 --> 00:26:45,360 feeling of coming home and 592 00:26:48,529 --> 00:26:46,380 um 593 00:26:50,450 --> 00:26:48,539 the whole time I just felt like I was in 594 00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:50,460 a state of on but it was all very 595 00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:52,260 surreal and 596 00:26:58,669 --> 00:26:54,539 in a lot of the temples I had this sense 597 00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,679 of comfort and familiarities 598 00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,720 no sort of memories or anything like 599 00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:02,640 that I don't have past life recall but 600 00:27:09,289 --> 00:27:05,340 it just felt like home 601 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,310 um 602 00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:13,200 and it was really neat to know that you 603 00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:14,940 know Egypt is the birthplace of these 604 00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:18,000 hermetic teachings and to be able to 605 00:27:22,490 --> 00:27:20,220 look at some of the reliefs on the walls 606 00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:22,500 of the temples and 607 00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:24,960 um kind of put some pieces together and 608 00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,080 see how chemical and hermetic principles 609 00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,200 depicted through the Egyptian cosmology 610 00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:33,840 and mythology so 611 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,140 yeah that was a really interesting and 612 00:27:42,169 --> 00:27:40,080 um enlightening seem to experience there 613 00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:42,179 and 614 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:44,400 at another trip really raised more 615 00:27:49,490 --> 00:27:46,500 questions than it answered 616 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,500 and I feel like this next leg of my 617 00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:50,880 journey is really going to be about 618 00:27:56,890 --> 00:27:53,100 unpacking that and going deeper into my 619 00:27:59,810 --> 00:27:56,900 understanding of um Egyptian lore and 620 00:28:01,490 --> 00:27:59,820 cosmology and you know 621 00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:01,500 trying to put some more pieces together 622 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:03,720 and go a little deeper with that 623 00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:06,240 oh that's great that's on the bucket 624 00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:08,220 list something I haven't done yet but I 625 00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:09,900 definitely want to incorporate in my 626 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,700 life and oh yeah it looks like it is you 627 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:16,559 know it's it's something it's better 628 00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,840 done sooner than later as the popularity 629 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:21,360 increases 630 00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:24,179 and right right 631 00:28:29,630 --> 00:28:26,580 um another aspect of your book and a 632 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:29,640 portion that I really liked is where you 633 00:28:35,149 --> 00:28:32,000 delve into the three branches of 634 00:28:37,490 --> 00:28:35,159 hermeticism astrology magic and Alchemy 635 00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:37,500 and if you don't mind I want to read uh 636 00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:38,940 just a quick sentence which I thought 637 00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:40,980 was amazing 638 00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:44,700 and that is okay that's a a magician 639 00:28:50,269 --> 00:28:47,580 unaware of planetary and zodiacal timing 640 00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:50,279 or at the very least the cycles of the 641 00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,740 moon is ignoring one of the most 642 00:28:57,470 --> 00:28:54,720 important factors in conducting 643 00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:57,480 successful rituals and this is so true 644 00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:00,720 coming back to the reality or our 645 00:29:07,970 --> 00:29:04,260 reality the cosmology of it all almost 646 00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:07,980 working like a finely tuned clock timing 647 00:29:14,810 --> 00:29:10,980 is everything isn't it 648 00:29:16,730 --> 00:29:14,820 yes yes it is and there's just so many 649 00:29:18,289 --> 00:29:16,740 levels of how precise you can get with 650 00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:18,299 that timing 651 00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:20,520 um from as basic as just you know doing 652 00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:22,980 something in the hour of the planet on 653 00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:25,320 the planetary day to like really working 654 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:28,140 out fine-tuned elections 655 00:29:33,049 --> 00:29:30,779 um where you know all of the planets and 656 00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:33,059 the moon especially are in an optimal 657 00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:35,580 position for a specific purpose for a 658 00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:38,940 specific magical ritual or calisthenic 659 00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:40,620 purpose so yeah there's a lot of 660 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:44,159 different levels of how precise you can 661 00:29:49,730 --> 00:29:46,260 be with that timing 662 00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:49,740 and in in today's modern it does seem 663 00:29:54,590 --> 00:29:52,380 like in today's modern society this is 664 00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:54,600 something that is getting more and more 665 00:30:02,450 --> 00:29:58,380 ignored where in the past Sailors 666 00:30:05,450 --> 00:30:02,460 Travelers alike would quite literally 667 00:30:07,810 --> 00:30:05,460 bet their lives and risk everything as 668 00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:07,820 far as from a navigational perspective 669 00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:13,260 on the stars and they they took it a lot 670 00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:16,020 more seriously and these operations of 671 00:30:22,669 --> 00:30:18,620 the Stars the moon the sun were taken 672 00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:22,679 far above what we consider them is just 673 00:30:28,330 --> 00:30:25,679 being menial in in today's modern 674 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:28,340 culture how do we get back to 675 00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:31,140 operationally and like including this in 676 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,720 our lives in your opinion 677 00:30:39,049 --> 00:30:36,480 hmm that's a good question 678 00:30:41,870 --> 00:30:39,059 um well I think it all you know starts 679 00:30:44,269 --> 00:30:41,880 individually and with the desire to 680 00:30:44,990 --> 00:30:44,279 learn and to understand 681 00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:45,000 um 682 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,860 and 683 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:48,960 just beginning to incorporate it with 684 00:30:54,649 --> 00:30:51,840 little things you know like 685 00:30:56,990 --> 00:30:54,659 um observing the cycles of the Moon and 686 00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:57,000 is the moon Waxing or Waning and when 687 00:31:01,789 --> 00:30:59,279 it's waxing it's the more generative 688 00:31:02,510 --> 00:31:01,799 time when it's waning it's more 689 00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:02,520 um 690 00:31:07,789 --> 00:31:05,220 passive or contractive so we can start 691 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:07,799 to attune ourselves those Cycles 692 00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:08,460 um 693 00:31:13,730 --> 00:31:11,700 we can get in touch with the zodiacal 694 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,740 signs and the different Cycles unfolding 695 00:31:17,210 --> 00:31:15,840 through throughout the year and the 696 00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:17,220 seasons 697 00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:18,000 um 698 00:31:22,430 --> 00:31:19,740 so yeah there's little ways that we can 699 00:31:24,289 --> 00:31:22,440 start to get in touch with that and not 700 00:31:27,169 --> 00:31:24,299 everybody needs to get into you know 701 00:31:29,630 --> 00:31:27,179 electional magic 702 00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:29,640 um that can be pretty complicated and 703 00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,220 it's not entirely necessary to go that 704 00:31:38,029 --> 00:31:34,320 deep with it I don't think 705 00:31:39,889 --> 00:31:38,039 um but just getting in tune with cycles 706 00:31:42,649 --> 00:31:39,899 and the timing of the planets and kind 707 00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:42,659 of understanding what's going on in that 708 00:31:48,529 --> 00:31:44,360 cosmological clock 709 00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:48,539 can help us to put things into context 710 00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:50,100 that are happening in our lives and in 711 00:31:54,769 --> 00:31:52,140 the world around us 712 00:31:58,370 --> 00:31:54,779 um help us find meaning and also help us 713 00:32:01,010 --> 00:31:58,380 to navigate energies that are unfolding 714 00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:01,020 in a more graceful way you know so 715 00:32:05,630 --> 00:32:03,480 things might be happening 716 00:32:07,549 --> 00:32:05,640 um according to that cosmological clock 717 00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,559 there might be certain transits or 718 00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:09,360 things happening that are affecting us 719 00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:11,159 in a certain way 720 00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,760 um but we the more conscious we are of 721 00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:16,799 that and how these things are unfolding 722 00:32:21,769 --> 00:32:19,140 the more we can kind of play with that 723 00:32:23,049 --> 00:32:21,779 and get creative and find ways to move 724 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:23,059 through that 725 00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:26,240 in in a positive way you know 726 00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:31,260 absolutely and I I really appreciate the 727 00:32:36,049 --> 00:32:34,140 detail you go into the cosmology I don't 728 00:32:39,289 --> 00:32:36,059 want to stay on that topic the whole 729 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,299 time but it is it is definitely a feat 730 00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:40,799 that you've accomplished here with this 731 00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:43,860 book again I highly recommend everybody 732 00:32:48,769 --> 00:32:46,799 get it and before I forget and I don't 733 00:32:50,210 --> 00:32:48,779 want to just cram this in at the end of 734 00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:50,220 the podcast 735 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:52,740 your artwork is something to behold can 736 00:32:58,490 --> 00:32:55,200 we tell listeners where they can view 737 00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,500 your artwork purchase prints and things 738 00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:00,960 of that nature 739 00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:03,360 yeah well my website is a great place to 740 00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:06,299 go um that's just my name so Marlena 741 00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:11,039 Devin bremner.com all spelled out and 742 00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:13,200 um there's a gallery of all my work and 743 00:33:17,149 --> 00:33:14,760 prints available of almost everything 744 00:33:18,529 --> 00:33:17,159 and 745 00:33:20,269 --> 00:33:18,539 um I'm not sure when the episode is 746 00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:20,279 going out but everything's on sale at 747 00:33:23,529 --> 00:33:22,620 the moment until midnight tonight 748 00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:23,539 um 749 00:33:28,450 --> 00:33:26,159 we'll get it out then before then for 750 00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:31,190 and uh let's see I have an Instagram 751 00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:33,600 where I post things that I'm working on 752 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:37,200 and my travels and other events and 753 00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:39,360 stuff like that and that's just M7 754 00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:40,500 artists 755 00:33:48,889 --> 00:33:42,000 and 756 00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,899 my patreon at seven art all spelled out 757 00:33:51,769 --> 00:33:50,399 and so lots of different ways to 758 00:33:53,930 --> 00:33:51,779 interact but yeah if you want to 759 00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:53,940 purchase prints or just peruse through 760 00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:55,500 the Galleries and the website's the 761 00:33:59,149 --> 00:33:56,760 place to go 762 00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,159 that is great thanks for doing that and 763 00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:01,919 I also really like how you attack the 764 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:05,640 concept of one and how basically 765 00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:07,200 universality 766 00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:07,980 um 767 00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:11,280 the Heaven and Earth component in a in a 768 00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:14,159 a bit of a ufologist and I'm interested 769 00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:17,220 in strange areas and actually you live 770 00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:19,080 in one you're in the land of enchantment 771 00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,060 and and you know in a in a recent 772 00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:26,159 conversation with somebody who had ties 773 00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:27,839 to intelligence in the Department of 774 00:34:34,070 --> 00:34:30,720 Defense they were mentioning to me well 775 00:34:36,649 --> 00:34:34,080 you know that uh they said something 776 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,659 very hermetic with that without really I 777 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:38,879 don't believe wanting to or meaning to 778 00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:42,240 but they said you know I they said 779 00:34:48,109 --> 00:34:45,179 speaking of themselves I believe God and 780 00:34:51,550 --> 00:34:48,119 Satan are one and that sounded very 781 00:34:54,889 --> 00:34:51,560 hermetic to me because 782 00:34:57,950 --> 00:34:54,899 you know when for for somebody that's 783 00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:57,960 more well-versed in the occult and the 784 00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:01,859 esoteric this this is kind of a 785 00:35:07,790 --> 00:35:04,980 a given you know if you do deep research 786 00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:07,800 but this was something that they had 787 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:10,680 come across just through 788 00:35:13,609 --> 00:35:12,960 energy work 789 00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:13,619 um 790 00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:16,440 Kundalini Yoga and some other things but 791 00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:19,520 the principle of Oneness in the universe 792 00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:23,280 and I find that that is slowly but 793 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:27,000 surely kind of permeating into all 794 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:34,550 that gray area is more readily accepted 795 00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,140 than straight positivity or straight 796 00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:39,599 negativity have you found that at all in 797 00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:45,109 yeah you know I do see that 798 00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:46,920 um happening and I I see people 799 00:35:50,329 --> 00:35:49,320 reflecting that truth and 800 00:35:53,450 --> 00:35:50,339 um 801 00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:53,460 trying you know I think people are 802 00:35:59,930 --> 00:35:57,200 wanting balance and the Hermetic 803 00:36:01,790 --> 00:35:59,940 worldview does kind of provide a way of 804 00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:01,800 looking at things that is more 805 00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:04,980 fundamentally balanced and that allows 806 00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:08,040 for things to be complex and it allows 807 00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:10,200 for Paradox you know that yeah God and 808 00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:12,660 Satan are essentially the same thing 809 00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:15,960 because of this idea that everything is 810 00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:19,260 from a unified source and so we perceive 811 00:36:23,569 --> 00:36:21,660 things in this reality as being so 812 00:36:25,849 --> 00:36:23,579 diametrically approached and separate 813 00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:25,859 you know there's hot and cold and love 814 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:28,260 and hate and male and female and all 815 00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:31,260 these polarities and opposites but at 816 00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:33,060 the root of it all everything is united 817 00:36:37,810 --> 00:36:36,660 in one form so every opposite 818 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:37,820 um 819 00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:40,500 contains its opposite within it you know 820 00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:43,740 the whole yin and yang idea and 821 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:50,050 I think people are wanting to 822 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:53,280 find that middle ground you know and 823 00:36:57,710 --> 00:36:54,960 that's really what the Hermetic 824 00:36:59,089 --> 00:36:57,720 teachings are all about is finding that 825 00:37:01,550 --> 00:36:59,099 um 826 00:37:03,650 --> 00:37:01,560 that Unified 827 00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:03,660 aligned path 828 00:37:08,089 --> 00:37:06,300 that doesn't see things as being so 829 00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:08,099 black and white 830 00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:11,760 absolutely energized he energizes these 831 00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:14,880 things that are kind of pulling us in 832 00:37:21,410 --> 00:37:17,640 such disparate ways 833 00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:21,420 and it's it is funny how humans have 834 00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,240 that tendency or it seems like limited 835 00:37:28,670 --> 00:37:26,460 capacity to only see things is positive 836 00:37:31,810 --> 00:37:28,680 and negative and that kind of brings me 837 00:37:33,770 --> 00:37:31,820 to another fundamental 838 00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:33,780 interesting 839 00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:36,960 portion that you cover very well in your 840 00:37:42,530 --> 00:37:39,900 book and that is the Trinity which is 841 00:37:45,530 --> 00:37:42,540 basically you know this third entity 842 00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:45,540 kind of Incorporated to provide make it 843 00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:49,020 more palatable and provide balance and 844 00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:52,200 do you think that that was presented in 845 00:37:56,890 --> 00:37:55,140 many spiritual and religious Traditions 846 00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:56,900 including gnosticism 847 00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:01,200 for that palatability just for people to 848 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,569 um 849 00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:09,829 I think 850 00:38:18,829 --> 00:38:17,510 a reflection of the energy of the 851 00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:18,839 Universe 852 00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:19,740 um 853 00:38:26,569 --> 00:38:21,780 that it's not just positive and negative 854 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:26,579 it's positive negative and neutral so 855 00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:29,040 we need that neutral pole for the 856 00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:30,660 positive and negative energies to 857 00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:32,520 interact around 858 00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:34,440 um and so there we have the Trinity just 859 00:38:38,089 --> 00:38:36,839 in electromagnetics but this gets 860 00:38:39,950 --> 00:38:38,099 expressed in different ways in different 861 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:39,960 religions so 862 00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:43,200 um in The Vedic system there's the 863 00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:46,260 active regossic Force and the passive 864 00:38:51,470 --> 00:38:49,140 temasek force and then the static 865 00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:51,480 neutral or balanced force that ties in 866 00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:54,839 together and in alchemy we have mercury 867 00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:57,660 which is that neutral principle that 868 00:39:03,710 --> 00:39:01,440 ties together the sulfur or the soul and 869 00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:03,720 the salt the body 870 00:39:10,190 --> 00:39:07,500 um and yeah so we see these these three 871 00:39:12,349 --> 00:39:10,200 principles being expressed 872 00:39:15,650 --> 00:39:12,359 um that just convey to us the nature of 873 00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:15,660 energy itself there's expansive energy 874 00:39:19,849 --> 00:39:17,700 and contractive energy and then there's 875 00:39:21,470 --> 00:39:19,859 neutral energy that is just pure 876 00:39:25,849 --> 00:39:21,480 Stillness 877 00:39:28,010 --> 00:39:25,859 able to connect these two parts of 878 00:39:32,089 --> 00:39:28,020 ourselves that are moving between 879 00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:32,099 contractive and expansive phases 880 00:39:36,109 --> 00:39:33,780 and 881 00:39:37,849 --> 00:39:36,119 I like to think of um 882 00:39:40,430 --> 00:39:37,859 I actually like to think of the infinity 883 00:39:42,290 --> 00:39:40,440 symbol a lot because um 884 00:39:43,970 --> 00:39:42,300 so the infinity symbol we can think of 885 00:39:48,349 --> 00:39:43,980 as the number eight which is described 886 00:39:50,690 --> 00:39:48,359 to Mercury and it's this continuous flow 887 00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:50,700 between these two states of being and at 888 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,280 the center we have that skill point 889 00:39:57,950 --> 00:39:55,680 um so I like to meditate on this symbol 890 00:39:59,810 --> 00:39:57,960 a lot as a way to you know kind of tune 891 00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:59,820 into that skill point and say okay yes 892 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:02,400 there's expansion and Contraption 893 00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:04,920 um let's just root myself into that 894 00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:07,380 Stillness in the center but also to 895 00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:08,700 embrace 896 00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:09,300 um 897 00:40:14,089 --> 00:40:11,160 when things are expanding and when 898 00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:14,099 things are Contracting and to be able to 899 00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:16,380 observe and not fight against it you 900 00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,400 know 901 00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:19,920 yeah I think that's a really good way to 902 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:22,260 describe it and it is present it seems 903 00:40:28,430 --> 00:40:25,560 in all inner energy and and even 904 00:40:30,829 --> 00:40:28,440 electricity you know with a positive and 905 00:40:33,010 --> 00:40:30,839 negative and no ground you're kind of 906 00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:33,020 asking for trouble 907 00:40:35,870 --> 00:40:34,920 and 908 00:40:37,970 --> 00:40:35,880 um 909 00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:37,980 and you know the Trinity I think it's 910 00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:39,960 important for listeners to know and you 911 00:40:45,170 --> 00:40:41,660 document this in your book quite well 912 00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,180 that the Trinity is described in the 913 00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:47,280 sacred sermon of Hermes 914 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:51,060 and I I find that amazing you know just 915 00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,420 how much was here before many of 916 00:40:59,450 --> 00:40:57,599 mainstream religions kind of picked and 917 00:41:02,569 --> 00:40:59,460 choose and you know got what they wanted 918 00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:02,579 whatever would would help them in their 919 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:04,980 in their assimilation of like the the 920 00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:06,960 residents in whatever area they were in 921 00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:08,400 but 922 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:11,400 the Trinity is described as God the 923 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:13,380 godhead and The Godly nature and I think 924 00:41:20,530 --> 00:41:16,800 that that's a great way of 925 00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,540 you know of description of the trinity 926 00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:23,040 and we find this in a lot of other 927 00:41:29,770 --> 00:41:25,680 cultures as well Eastern cultures and 928 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,780 you pull from a wide variety of codices 929 00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:32,400 how how did you 930 00:41:37,310 --> 00:41:35,460 decide how how to get this all together 931 00:41:39,050 --> 00:41:37,320 because it's pretty fascinating it would 932 00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,060 be a lot of work just pulling from one 933 00:41:43,609 --> 00:41:41,520 or two but you you really you really go 934 00:41:46,910 --> 00:41:43,619 all in with this and try to incorporate 935 00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:49,130 I think that's just kind of my general 936 00:41:53,530 --> 00:41:50,820 approach to life 937 00:41:56,089 --> 00:41:53,540 um when I'm interested in a subject and 938 00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,099 I kind of want to see it from as many 939 00:42:01,370 --> 00:41:59,040 angles as I can and sort of you know 940 00:42:02,569 --> 00:42:01,380 that gets into comparative mythology and 941 00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:02,579 stuff and 942 00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:03,359 um 943 00:42:08,210 --> 00:42:05,220 I'm always looking for patterns and 944 00:42:10,849 --> 00:42:08,220 connections between things and that's 945 00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:10,859 kind of just how I approach the world in 946 00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:12,660 general is kind of with an eye for those 947 00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:15,180 patterns and connections and so when I 948 00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:17,640 was researching the book that's also 949 00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:19,800 how that was unfolding for me was okay 950 00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:22,380 well what does this look like in 951 00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:24,000 um in this context during this other 952 00:42:28,849 --> 00:42:26,160 culture and 953 00:42:30,050 --> 00:42:28,859 um what other sources discuss this topic 954 00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:30,060 you know and 955 00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:32,060 kind of trying to 956 00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:38,270 um perspective through looking at many 957 00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,440 different sources for things 958 00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:41,760 so yeah 959 00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:45,420 very well done and it flows so well in 960 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,960 the book it really does and I I also 961 00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:51,359 really appreciate the fact that you 962 00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:54,480 bring in the chakras and the the human 963 00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,160 body and how energy flows through that 964 00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:00,960 uh I really I really appreciated that 965 00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:02,460 could you tell listeners a little bit 966 00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:05,040 about the human chakras and how this 967 00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,280 relates to the Hermetic principles 968 00:43:13,130 --> 00:43:09,599 mm-hmm 969 00:43:13,730 --> 00:43:13,140 so the chakras are based on the 970 00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:13,740 um 971 00:43:18,109 --> 00:43:16,319 caduceus which is the staff of hernias 972 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,119 and 973 00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:19,920 um it's interesting that you know the 974 00:43:23,450 --> 00:43:22,500 The Vedic tradition has their own 975 00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,460 um 976 00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:25,680 very similar 977 00:43:30,829 --> 00:43:28,800 um understanding of the human esoteric 978 00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:30,839 anatomy and that this relates to the 979 00:43:33,410 --> 00:43:32,700 ancient Egyptian 980 00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:33,420 um 981 00:43:38,210 --> 00:43:36,420 symbol of serpents and twice inclining 982 00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:38,220 around to stuff 983 00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,119 um 984 00:43:44,210 --> 00:43:42,000 anyway there's a central Channel and 985 00:43:46,569 --> 00:43:44,220 around the central channel that runs up 986 00:43:49,130 --> 00:43:46,579 the spinal columns there are these two 987 00:43:52,010 --> 00:43:49,140 serpentine-like energies that interweave 988 00:43:54,589 --> 00:43:52,020 as they move up around this Channel and 989 00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,599 where they overlap uh where they cross 990 00:43:59,630 --> 00:43:56,880 over this is where these chakras or 991 00:44:03,170 --> 00:43:59,640 energy centers are formed and there's 992 00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:03,180 seven of these starting at the perineum 993 00:44:08,450 --> 00:44:05,819 or the base of the spine and moving all 994 00:44:10,690 --> 00:44:08,460 the way up to the crown of the head and 995 00:44:13,490 --> 00:44:10,700 they regulate 996 00:44:15,290 --> 00:44:13,500 energy moving into and out of the body 997 00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:15,300 and 998 00:44:18,349 --> 00:44:15,960 um 999 00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:18,359 function primarily through the nervous 1000 00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:20,700 system and the endocrine system 1001 00:44:26,809 --> 00:44:24,599 so um facilitating messages 1002 00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:26,819 um to the brain and through the hormones 1003 00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:30,060 and affecting the bodily organs in that 1004 00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:34,140 way so each one deals with different 1005 00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:37,800 bodily functions different organs each 1006 00:44:42,589 --> 00:44:39,660 one aligns with the different elements 1007 00:44:44,930 --> 00:44:42,599 with a different planet so that's the 1008 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,940 root chakra we've got Saturn and the 1009 00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,040 elements of earth and everything having 1010 00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:49,200 to do with our physicality our 1011 00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:52,400 elimination system our sexuality 1012 00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:55,619 survival instincts 1013 00:44:59,809 --> 00:44:58,560 and then um I don't know if I want to 1014 00:45:01,730 --> 00:44:59,819 get into all of them but for another 1015 00:45:05,089 --> 00:45:01,740 example we've got the heart chakra which 1016 00:45:07,130 --> 00:45:05,099 is ruled by Venus and this regulates the 1017 00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:07,140 heart and the lungs and the circulatory 1018 00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:08,060 system 1019 00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:11,880 and relates to our sense of compassion 1020 00:45:15,010 --> 00:45:13,980 and ability to love others and love 1021 00:45:17,630 --> 00:45:15,020 ourselves 1022 00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:17,640 all issues pertaining to the heart and 1023 00:45:23,809 --> 00:45:21,180 to feeling and to the air element to 1024 00:45:27,170 --> 00:45:23,819 breath the vital Breath of Life 1025 00:45:29,210 --> 00:45:27,180 and then mercury in the throat which 1026 00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:29,220 relates to the fifth element which is 1027 00:45:36,349 --> 00:45:30,500 ether 1028 00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:36,359 and to our beach and communication and 1029 00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:38,220 ability to hear and receive information 1030 00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:42,540 coming in to sound in general 1031 00:45:48,530 --> 00:45:46,440 and to expressing ourselves clearly and 1032 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:48,540 eloquently and 1033 00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:49,440 um 1034 00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:52,140 being able to communicate with other 1035 00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:53,220 people 1036 00:45:58,670 --> 00:45:56,520 to invoke magical words of power all of 1037 00:46:02,870 --> 00:45:58,680 this is related to Mercury in the throat 1038 00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:02,880 chakra and this is also in The Vedic 1039 00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:05,280 system it's named the shooter and it's 1040 00:46:09,290 --> 00:46:07,200 thought of it's like a filter so it's 1041 00:46:11,329 --> 00:46:09,300 kind of filtering energy between the 1042 00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,339 above and the below 1043 00:46:14,329 --> 00:46:12,960 um and if we think of that in the neck 1044 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,339 you know we've got this narrow channel 1045 00:46:18,829 --> 00:46:16,800 between the upper chakras in the head 1046 00:46:21,650 --> 00:46:18,839 and the lower chakras which relate to 1047 00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,660 the four elements of earth Fire Water 1048 00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:23,520 and Air 1049 00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:25,140 um and then the upper chakras are more 1050 00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:27,960 ethereal so the throat kind of connects 1051 00:46:31,250 --> 00:46:29,520 the upper and the lower just like 1052 00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:31,260 Mercury connects the conscious and the 1053 00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:33,300 unconscious or Heaven and the underworld 1054 00:46:36,829 --> 00:46:34,440 and 1055 00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:36,839 um helps us to facilitate 1056 00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:38,700 um communication and movement between 1057 00:46:43,790 --> 00:46:40,980 these parts of our phone 1058 00:46:45,710 --> 00:46:43,800 and then um in the head we've got the 1059 00:46:48,050 --> 00:46:45,720 sun and the moon so the moon ruling the 1060 00:46:50,750 --> 00:46:48,060 third eye which is in the center of the 1061 00:46:53,569 --> 00:46:50,760 forehead and the Sun goes to the crown 1062 00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:53,579 so the highest point within the human 1063 00:46:56,210 --> 00:46:55,560 Energy System 1064 00:46:59,329 --> 00:46:56,220 um 1065 00:47:02,270 --> 00:46:59,339 and these two Sun and Moon 1066 00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:02,280 represent the quintessential opposites 1067 00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:04,440 within us the father and the mother the 1068 00:47:09,770 --> 00:47:07,740 king and the Queen and when we're able 1069 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:09,780 to align these different Serpentine 1070 00:47:14,829 --> 00:47:11,880 energies which represent the passive and 1071 00:47:17,630 --> 00:47:14,839 the active within us they accommodate 1072 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,640 in the bridal chamber of the brain where 1073 00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:19,440 the third eye is 1074 00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:21,240 um and this sort of Love Affair between 1075 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,920 the Sun and the Moon takes place where 1076 00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:24,480 they can act in Harmony and so that's 1077 00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:27,960 that full harmonization of the Opposites 1078 00:47:33,050 --> 00:47:31,020 within us in the Sun and the Moon and 1079 00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:33,060 this relates to 1080 00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:35,880 you know the Kundalini Rising 1081 00:47:39,530 --> 00:47:37,980 um which is also thought of as a 1082 00:47:44,030 --> 00:47:39,540 serpentine energy sleeping at the base 1083 00:47:45,890 --> 00:47:44,040 of the spine and Awakening Consciousness 1084 00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:45,900 um it'll 1085 00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:46,680 um 1086 00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:49,619 relate to Enlightenment or gnosis and 1087 00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:52,740 just the full realization of 1088 00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:53,760 um 1089 00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:56,160 of Truth and of the self and of divine 1090 00:48:02,089 --> 00:47:59,280 wisdom within us and all of this is 1091 00:48:05,089 --> 00:48:02,099 happening energetically in the body as 1092 00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,099 these energies become a line and 1093 00:48:08,990 --> 00:48:07,920 awakened and guided upward in their 1094 00:48:11,329 --> 00:48:09,000 offense 1095 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,339 so that's a little bit about the chakras 1096 00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:13,200 um I don't know do you have any other 1097 00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,440 specific questions it's not it's such a 1098 00:48:20,930 --> 00:48:18,000 good explanation and such a great 1099 00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:20,940 realization of the chakra's importance 1100 00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:24,420 with energy and kind of with Oneness 1101 00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:28,980 again universalism and I I I think you 1102 00:48:36,530 --> 00:48:33,480 know in this age of Separation that 1103 00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:36,540 I it kind of brings me back to you know 1104 00:48:42,890 --> 00:48:40,260 the universality of everything and 1105 00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:42,900 I am that I am you know that common 1106 00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:47,220 English translation of the Hebrew phrase 1107 00:48:52,609 --> 00:48:49,560 you know which may mean I will become 1108 00:48:55,309 --> 00:48:52,619 what I choose to become and I will be 1109 00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:55,319 that I will be or I create what I create 1110 00:48:59,690 --> 00:48:58,200 or I am the existing one and the 1111 00:49:02,990 --> 00:48:59,700 connection to 1112 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,000 the Divine mind I just think that's so 1113 00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,240 well explained that we are you know 1114 00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,400 inside of us is the same as outside of 1115 00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:10,640 us so we are we are we are the universe 1116 00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:15,000 and uh a a line in your book which is 1117 00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:17,220 absolutely amazing 1118 00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:20,400 um is when it comes to I believe it's 1119 00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:23,220 under the creative Spear and that is the 1120 00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:25,980 unawakened Mind from Pure forgetfulness 1121 00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,680 unaware of their formative prowers is 1122 00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:31,440 creating unconsciously but with gnosis 1123 00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:34,079 there is nothing left to do but sing 1124 00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:36,420 praise and silence and I love that 1125 00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:39,599 almost as if when you do when you do 1126 00:49:43,490 --> 00:49:41,880 find out how it all works all you can 1127 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:43,500 really do is be a little more quiet 1128 00:49:49,790 --> 00:49:47,520 about things and not not as uh not not 1129 00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:49,800 be screaming the entire process from the 1130 00:49:59,089 --> 00:49:56,569 um let's let's get to something else 1131 00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,099 that I know is is pretty amazing and 1132 00:50:03,530 --> 00:50:00,720 kind of delve into the darkness a little 1133 00:50:05,809 --> 00:50:03,540 bit of Saturn and 1134 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:05,819 have you delved into Saturn 1135 00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:13,670 had input into your creativity and 1136 00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:21,470 yeah 1137 00:50:26,210 --> 00:50:22,140 um 1138 00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:26,220 Robin and I are very well acquainted and 1139 00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:27,480 um 1140 00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,180 I feel like I have a deep love and 1141 00:50:35,390 --> 00:50:32,160 appreciation first attorney and energy 1142 00:50:35,930 --> 00:50:35,400 through my experiences with it 1143 00:50:39,050 --> 00:50:35,940 um 1144 00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:39,060 it's definitely not an easy energy to 1145 00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:41,220 deal with all the time 1146 00:50:44,450 --> 00:50:41,940 um 1147 00:50:47,230 --> 00:50:44,460 so Saturn relates to as I was saying 1148 00:50:49,549 --> 00:50:47,240 before the root chakra the Earth element 1149 00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:49,559 and things that have to do with our 1150 00:50:55,309 --> 00:50:53,339 physical survival but also in alchemy it 1151 00:50:57,049 --> 00:50:55,319 relates to the metal lead which is like 1152 00:50:59,089 --> 00:50:57,059 the densest and heaviest of all the 1153 00:51:01,250 --> 00:50:59,099 metals and 1154 00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,260 um you know the most difficult to 1155 00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:03,359 transmute and 1156 00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,079 um 1157 00:51:10,130 --> 00:51:06,480 this sort of heaviness and a sense of 1158 00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:10,140 inertia and constriction contraction and 1159 00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:15,839 limitation and it can feel really uh 1160 00:51:20,589 --> 00:51:18,300 like such a burden sometimes when 1161 00:51:24,430 --> 00:51:20,599 saturnian energy is very strong for us 1162 00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:24,440 and an Alchemy um Saturn is actually 1163 00:51:28,569 --> 00:51:26,520 placed right at the beginning of the 1164 00:51:32,450 --> 00:51:28,579 alchemical great work 1165 00:51:34,849 --> 00:51:32,460 assigned to the process or the initial 1166 00:51:38,510 --> 00:51:34,859 stage of the optimal work known as the 1167 00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,520 negrado or the blackening and you know 1168 00:51:42,049 --> 00:51:40,559 it's said that when you see your matter 1169 00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:42,059 going black you know you're at the 1170 00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:44,040 beginning of the work so it's very 1171 00:51:48,410 --> 00:51:45,599 important 1172 00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:48,420 um part of the oxymical process and of 1173 00:51:53,690 --> 00:51:50,700 the creative process as well 1174 00:51:55,069 --> 00:51:53,700 um the necessary darkness that we have 1175 00:51:58,970 --> 00:51:55,079 to go into 1176 00:52:00,349 --> 00:51:58,980 for Generation to occur so it's also 1177 00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:00,359 said there's no generation without 1178 00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:02,880 future faction and so this idea that we 1179 00:52:07,309 --> 00:52:04,920 have to allow things to break down and 1180 00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:07,319 decay in order for New Growth to happen 1181 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,559 and so in life 1182 00:52:15,770 --> 00:52:12,960 um and for me you know 1183 00:52:18,829 --> 00:52:15,780 this can happen in like really big ways 1184 00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,839 where you really feel like you're in the 1185 00:52:22,670 --> 00:52:20,640 Dark Night of the soul and like going 1186 00:52:25,790 --> 00:52:22,680 through a whole realm and just like 1187 00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:25,800 trying to stay afloat um 1188 00:52:29,329 --> 00:52:28,440 and it can be a very challenging time in 1189 00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:29,339 life 1190 00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,900 um maybe when we feel like we've hit 1191 00:52:34,370 --> 00:52:32,400 rock bottom and there's nowhere else to 1192 00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:34,380 go you know and 1193 00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:38,400 there's something that happens when we 1194 00:52:44,510 --> 00:52:41,760 surrender to that and we kind of each we 1195 00:52:47,089 --> 00:52:44,520 just let go and say okay yeah I'm here 1196 00:52:49,370 --> 00:52:47,099 and this is happening and I'm just going 1197 00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:49,380 to trust that it's happening for a 1198 00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:50,880 reason 1199 00:52:55,370 --> 00:52:52,140 um there's something that happens where 1200 00:52:57,170 --> 00:52:55,380 it does begin to transform and so I've 1201 00:52:58,010 --> 00:52:57,180 had many different phases of this in my 1202 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:58,020 life 1203 00:53:01,490 --> 00:53:00,000 um You can call it Melancholia or 1204 00:53:02,809 --> 00:53:01,500 depression or just you know going 1205 00:53:04,370 --> 00:53:02,819 through a hard time 1206 00:53:09,410 --> 00:53:04,380 and 1207 00:53:11,809 --> 00:53:09,420 more that I just trust that it's a 1208 00:53:13,609 --> 00:53:11,819 transformative transforming process 1209 00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:13,619 that's happening 1210 00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:16,260 um the easier it is to navigate and the 1211 00:53:20,930 --> 00:53:18,540 faster it actually does transform 1212 00:53:24,770 --> 00:53:20,940 so I mean I've had it where it lasted 1213 00:53:26,930 --> 00:53:24,780 years and then you know even just within 1214 00:53:29,569 --> 00:53:26,940 the last week I had a few days where I 1215 00:53:31,609 --> 00:53:29,579 was going through it and um I've come to 1216 00:53:33,170 --> 00:53:31,619 really actually embrace it 1217 00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,180 and 1218 00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:36,240 almost enjoy it in this kind of strange 1219 00:53:38,809 --> 00:53:37,440 way 1220 00:53:42,530 --> 00:53:38,819 um 1221 00:53:44,690 --> 00:53:42,540 where limitation will kind of come upon 1222 00:53:46,370 --> 00:53:44,700 me and I'll just say okay well this is 1223 00:53:48,530 --> 00:53:46,380 what I've got to deal with and how can I 1224 00:53:51,530 --> 00:53:48,540 get creative Within These sounds of 1225 00:53:54,109 --> 00:53:51,540 limitation like what can I do and then 1226 00:53:56,690 --> 00:53:54,119 some amazing things end up happening and 1227 00:54:00,650 --> 00:53:56,700 I find a sense of freedom in limitation 1228 00:54:02,270 --> 00:54:00,660 that is actually really profound to me 1229 00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:02,280 um so yeah that's 1230 00:54:05,930 --> 00:54:04,020 that's a little bit about my experience 1231 00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:05,940 with Saturn and 1232 00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:08,880 I definitely have a deep respect for 1233 00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:09,960 Saturn 1234 00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:13,020 yeah I I really appreciate that that 1235 00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:16,500 answer because that I I think that's so 1236 00:54:22,849 --> 00:54:20,160 important you know it's you know to be 1237 00:54:25,690 --> 00:54:22,859 with that Rhythm or with that flow when 1238 00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:25,700 it's where it is it is what it is 1239 00:54:32,329 --> 00:54:29,640 and reflecting on that and kind of 1240 00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:32,339 understanding that it's it's momentary 1241 00:54:38,329 --> 00:54:36,720 right that is uh a huge leap and 1242 00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:38,339 difficult for people to do usually 1243 00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:41,579 people prefer to fight these these uh 1244 00:54:47,390 --> 00:54:43,440 negatively charged 1245 00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:47,400 moments of emotion and such but we in 1246 00:54:51,170 --> 00:54:49,200 reality if we go with the flow it 1247 00:54:53,690 --> 00:54:51,180 reminds me a lot of yoga and I don't 1248 00:54:56,450 --> 00:54:53,700 want to sound cheesy but if you go with 1249 00:54:58,970 --> 00:54:56,460 the flow it's not only a simplified mode 1250 00:55:01,730 --> 00:54:58,980 but it brings me to 1251 00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:01,740 something you mentioned which is Saturn 1252 00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:06,780 being equated to lead and the process of 1253 00:55:14,170 --> 00:55:09,119 transmutation you know turning lead into 1254 00:55:17,089 --> 00:55:14,180 gold and I know that oftentimes people 1255 00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:17,099 unfortunately believe that to be what it 1256 00:55:23,630 --> 00:55:19,859 is at face value but more likely in the 1257 00:55:26,089 --> 00:55:23,640 alchemical process it's exactly what you 1258 00:55:27,530 --> 00:55:26,099 mentioned where it is more important in 1259 00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:27,540 the great work or in the alchemical 1260 00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:30,960 process to to transform those 1261 00:55:37,609 --> 00:55:34,440 difficult rough moments into 1262 00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,619 better times and you know with without 1263 00:55:43,370 --> 00:55:39,599 that darkness and suffering how would we 1264 00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:43,380 know what a better time even is right 1265 00:55:50,329 --> 00:55:47,220 yeah yeah we need that perspective and 1266 00:55:52,430 --> 00:55:50,339 everything is moving through these 1267 00:55:55,010 --> 00:55:52,440 spaces of growth and decline expansion 1268 00:55:58,250 --> 00:55:55,020 and contraction we see this through this 1269 00:56:01,250 --> 00:55:58,260 season of the year you know and 1270 00:56:01,970 --> 00:56:01,260 this is happening to us all the time so 1271 00:56:04,430 --> 00:56:01,980 um 1272 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:04,440 it's important to acknowledge that when 1273 00:56:10,490 --> 00:56:06,240 it's happening and not just to fight it 1274 00:56:12,530 --> 00:56:10,500 off or ignore it or also not to identify 1275 00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:12,540 with it and get stuck in it you know but 1276 00:56:17,390 --> 00:56:15,240 to just see it as a process that's 1277 00:56:19,549 --> 00:56:17,400 unfolding and also 1278 00:56:22,030 --> 00:56:19,559 to understand that in that Darkness 1279 00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,040 there is a richness there 1280 00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:24,480 and that's where the Philosopher's Stone 1281 00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:26,160 is that's where it's hidden it's in the 1282 00:56:31,010 --> 00:56:29,700 darkness in the darkness within us and 1283 00:56:33,970 --> 00:56:31,020 so 1284 00:56:37,309 --> 00:56:33,980 being open to that and willing to 1285 00:56:40,670 --> 00:56:37,319 face it can really unfold the beautiful 1286 00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:40,680 process of self-discovery 1287 00:56:45,770 --> 00:56:43,440 I couldn't agree more and you you go 1288 00:56:48,589 --> 00:56:45,780 into so much detail with all the planets 1289 00:56:52,250 --> 00:56:48,599 I loved your section on Jupiter we we 1290 00:56:54,349 --> 00:56:52,260 could discuss that forever but um in the 1291 00:56:57,770 --> 00:56:54,359 sake for the sake of time something that 1292 00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:57,780 I do want to touch on is Mars because in 1293 00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:00,720 these more modern times we're seeing so 1294 00:57:06,890 --> 00:57:04,140 much mainstream media about Mars 1295 00:57:08,290 --> 00:57:06,900 um you know with the Elon Musk Narrative 1296 00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:08,300 of 1297 00:57:15,530 --> 00:57:10,920 creating a 1298 00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:15,540 Community there do you find that 1299 00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:19,200 this is being done for other reasons or 1300 00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,140 do you think that there is an esoteric 1301 00:57:28,430 --> 00:57:24,240 backbone to some of this that we're 1302 00:57:34,130 --> 00:57:28,440 seeing in more mainstream narratives 1303 00:57:37,250 --> 00:57:36,589 we're all trying to get to 1304 00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:37,260 um 1305 00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:39,359 well Meanwhile we're destroying our 1306 00:57:43,790 --> 00:57:41,000 planet and 1307 00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:43,800 through this very kind of like heated 1308 00:57:50,990 --> 00:57:48,960 Martian process of global warming and 1309 00:57:53,630 --> 00:57:51,000 um now we want to go to the planet of 1310 00:57:55,130 --> 00:57:53,640 fire and make residents there that's 1311 00:57:56,030 --> 00:57:55,140 very interesting 1312 00:57:58,190 --> 00:57:56,040 um 1313 00:58:00,349 --> 00:57:58,200 and also you know thinking of Mars as 1314 00:58:02,750 --> 00:58:00,359 possibly having had water on it before 1315 00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:02,760 and like where did it go and 1316 00:58:05,329 --> 00:58:03,359 um 1317 00:58:07,490 --> 00:58:05,339 the future of Earth you know as things 1318 00:58:09,770 --> 00:58:07,500 continue like is Earth going to become 1319 00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:09,780 another planet like Mars 1320 00:58:12,049 --> 00:58:10,500 um 1321 00:58:14,930 --> 00:58:12,059 these are just some of the things that I 1322 00:58:17,150 --> 00:58:14,940 think about sometimes but 1323 00:58:20,329 --> 00:58:17,160 also like 1324 00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:20,339 humanity is still such a warring 1325 00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,960 um species 1326 00:58:26,809 --> 00:58:24,000 so it kind of makes sense that we would 1327 00:58:29,930 --> 00:58:26,819 want to go to Mars the planet of war and 1328 00:58:36,049 --> 00:58:32,950 but maybe that's part of some sort of 1329 00:58:38,690 --> 00:58:36,059 healing process that we're going through 1330 00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:38,700 reconciling with that part of ourselves 1331 00:58:43,730 --> 00:58:40,200 I don't know 1332 00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,740 I like that I like that and you know you 1333 00:58:49,010 --> 00:58:46,079 go into so much detail about the sun 1334 00:58:51,410 --> 00:58:49,020 which is something that I think 1335 00:58:53,809 --> 00:58:51,420 uh you named the essence of Eternity 1336 00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:53,819 which was such a good such a good name 1337 00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:57,000 for that chapter and you show the eye of 1338 00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:58,799 the sun obviously 1339 00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:59,520 um 1340 00:59:04,849 --> 00:59:02,160 Eye of Horus can you explain the 1341 00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,859 realization that can come from 1342 00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:07,200 basically I don't want to say son 1343 00:59:11,450 --> 00:59:09,180 worship but 1344 00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:11,460 understanding the Sun and its importance 1345 00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:20,150 well in the Hermetic technology the Sun 1346 00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:22,680 is the distance of 1347 00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:25,140 light and connects us with the Divine 1348 00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:27,240 source of all things 1349 00:59:32,990 --> 00:59:29,220 um whether you want to call it God or 1350 00:59:35,450 --> 00:59:33,000 the Creator the supreme or the one it's 1351 00:59:37,370 --> 00:59:35,460 through the Sun that those Divine rays 1352 00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:37,380 are emanating and through the Rays of 1353 00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,480 the Sun and so fun worship is in a sense 1354 00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:44,880 connecting with that Divine Source 1355 00:59:48,890 --> 00:59:47,160 that's moving through the Sun and 1356 00:59:51,410 --> 00:59:48,900 everything within our solar system all 1357 00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:51,420 of these planets revolving around the 1358 00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:53,119 Sun 1359 00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:55,140 corresponds and turn with the seven 1360 01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:57,839 chakras within us ruled by those planets 1361 01:00:04,370 --> 01:00:00,720 and how they're all aligned and unified 1362 01:00:06,650 --> 01:00:04,380 by the Sun so the Sun the white light of 1363 01:00:09,890 --> 01:00:06,660 the sun actually contains all the sudden 1364 01:00:11,930 --> 01:00:09,900 rays of the spectrum and so in a sense 1365 01:00:16,970 --> 01:00:11,940 all of those planets are unified by the 1366 01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:16,980 sun and the Sun is described as a 1367 01:00:21,710 --> 01:00:19,500 chariots here and so 1368 01:00:23,450 --> 01:00:21,720 the charioteer has the reins of all the 1369 01:00:26,030 --> 01:00:23,460 seven in his hands and he's able to 1370 01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:26,040 guide them and this is sort of what 1371 01:00:29,630 --> 01:00:27,599 happens when we can align with that 1372 01:00:32,270 --> 01:00:29,640 highest most exalted part of ourselves 1373 01:00:35,569 --> 01:00:32,280 which is Sun expresses and that's also 1374 01:00:37,609 --> 01:00:35,579 expressed through the middle school and 1375 01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:37,619 the perception of metal gold and Alchemy 1376 01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:39,480 and the transmutation of these other 1377 01:00:47,150 --> 01:00:42,240 metals into this most exalted form 1378 01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,160 calls and on another level you know the 1379 01:00:52,910 --> 01:00:49,920 cycles of the sun and the seasons and 1380 01:00:55,010 --> 01:00:52,920 you know the different myths of like 1381 01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,020 dying and resurrected Gods 1382 01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:57,359 um like Osiris and 1383 01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:00,240 um the movie and 1384 01:01:05,329 --> 01:01:02,400 um The Rebirth of the Sun that happens 1385 01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:05,339 with the winter solstice and kind of 1386 01:01:12,049 --> 01:01:08,240 tapping into that mythological aspect 1387 01:01:15,170 --> 01:01:12,059 helps us to get in touch with our sense 1388 01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:15,180 of what's Eternal within us and that you 1389 01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:16,740 know through life we're constantly going 1390 01:01:21,049 --> 01:01:18,480 through these thefts and Transformations 1391 01:01:24,170 --> 01:01:21,059 and then at the end of our life we die 1392 01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:24,180 and then we transform again but if we 1393 01:01:29,930 --> 01:01:26,520 align and identify with this solar 1394 01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:29,940 aspect we can get in touch with that 1395 01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:33,180 Eternal Essence that we actually are and 1396 01:01:37,069 --> 01:01:35,520 that you know we might be changing and 1397 01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:37,079 transforming all the time dying and 1398 01:01:40,670 --> 01:01:38,220 being reborn 1399 01:01:43,789 --> 01:01:40,680 but our essential nature is always the 1400 01:01:45,589 --> 01:01:43,799 same and that's that Eternal core of 1401 01:01:47,170 --> 01:01:45,599 what we actually are and who we actually 1402 01:01:49,730 --> 01:01:47,180 are 1403 01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:49,740 brilliant you're so knowledgeable on 1404 01:01:54,289 --> 01:01:51,839 this subject matter I could talk to you 1405 01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:54,299 forever it seems um 1406 01:02:00,109 --> 01:01:57,839 but I let's as we kind of wrap up here I 1407 01:02:01,430 --> 01:02:00,119 think it's very important to let our 1408 01:02:04,609 --> 01:02:01,440 listeners know that this is a very 1409 01:02:08,030 --> 01:02:04,619 important and in my opinion necessary 1410 01:02:10,430 --> 01:02:08,040 book on everyone's bookshelf let's once 1411 01:02:13,849 --> 01:02:10,440 again remind them where they can 1412 01:02:17,630 --> 01:02:13,859 purchase the book and uh before the sale 1413 01:02:19,370 --> 01:02:17,640 is over where they can purchase your art 1414 01:02:22,510 --> 01:02:19,380 yes 1415 01:02:24,829 --> 01:02:22,520 um well but if you go to my website 1416 01:02:27,470 --> 01:02:24,839 marlena7bremner.com and maybe you can 1417 01:02:28,490 --> 01:02:27,480 have the link to that on the show notes 1418 01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:28,500 um 1419 01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:31,980 you will see links to the book and it's 1420 01:02:36,410 --> 01:02:34,319 available broadly like on Amazon and 1421 01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:36,420 Barnes and Nobles and you can purchase 1422 01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,760 it from inner traditions and several 1423 01:02:43,609 --> 01:02:40,799 other booksellers as well so all those 1424 01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:43,619 links are there on my home page and 1425 01:02:48,650 --> 01:02:46,440 there's also a link to the pre-order for 1426 01:02:52,190 --> 01:02:48,660 my second book which comes out in July 1427 01:02:54,289 --> 01:02:52,200 of this year and that one follows up on 1428 01:02:57,770 --> 01:02:54,299 the first book and goes a little deeper 1429 01:02:58,970 --> 01:02:57,780 into the Alchemy and art side of things 1430 01:03:01,549 --> 01:02:58,980 um 1431 01:03:04,010 --> 01:03:01,559 and let's see here what was the other 1432 01:03:06,049 --> 01:03:04,020 question oh my goodness oh yes your 1433 01:03:09,289 --> 01:03:06,059 artwork as well 1434 01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:09,299 oh yes the same place my website 1435 01:03:13,549 --> 01:03:11,640 um go to the print Tab and everything is 1436 01:03:16,490 --> 01:03:13,559 there that's available for purchase lots 1437 01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,500 of different sizes and lots to choose 1438 01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:18,000 from so 1439 01:03:24,170 --> 01:03:20,880 yeah and if you want to subscribe to 1440 01:03:27,710 --> 01:03:24,180 patreon again that's um patreon.com 1441 01:03:29,690 --> 01:03:27,720 forward slash seven art and there's 1442 01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:29,700 different tiers that you can subscribe 1443 01:03:34,250 --> 01:03:32,400 at starting at a dollar a month which 1444 01:03:36,410 --> 01:03:34,260 gives you access to the blog and that 1445 01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:36,420 goes back for years and we'll give you a 1446 01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:39,359 glimpse inside of my thinking process 1447 01:03:44,510 --> 01:03:41,520 and creative process and then different 1448 01:03:46,730 --> 01:03:44,520 tiers from there with Rewards 1449 01:03:50,030 --> 01:03:46,740 um at different levels so those are some 1450 01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:50,040 of the ways to find me and to interact 1451 01:03:55,549 --> 01:03:52,160 um and yeah Facebook and Instagram 1452 01:03:57,890 --> 01:03:55,559 Marlena seven Bremner who can find me 1453 01:04:00,829 --> 01:03:57,900 such an important book can't wait for 1454 01:04:02,809 --> 01:04:00,839 your next one I I really love the way 1455 01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:02,819 you take these mysterious 1456 01:04:08,329 --> 01:04:06,000 things and kind of shed a lot of light 1457 01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:08,339 on them and connect them and I think 1458 01:04:12,049 --> 01:04:10,140 that a lot of people could gain a lot of 1459 01:04:15,289 --> 01:04:12,059 comfort by reading this book there's a 1460 01:04:17,510 --> 01:04:15,299 lot of amazing stuff in its teachings 1461 01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:17,520 and I wish you the best thank you so 1462 01:04:22,430 --> 01:04:20,280 much for coming on Marlena 1463 01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:22,440 oh thank you so much Ryan it's been a 1464 01:04:25,370 --> 01:04:24,000 pleasure speaking with you a lot of fun 1465 01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:25,380 thank you 1466 01:04:28,490 --> 01:04:27,119 there it is 1467 01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:28,500 man 1468 01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:30,000 what a book 1469 01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:33,359 what a great author the book is hermetic 1470 01:04:38,809 --> 01:04:36,000 philosophy and creative Alchemy the 1471 01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:38,819 Emerald Tablet the Corpus sirmeticum and 1472 01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:41,280 the journey through the seven spheres by 1473 01:04:48,309 --> 01:04:45,119 Marlena 7 Bremner pick up a copy and 1474 01:04:51,609 --> 01:04:48,319 definitely check out her 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